Background (MIL-Downed In Austria-2b)
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---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FOUND Running List as Found on Internet or Elsewhere Davis, Roy-New Hampshire Bombardier - Papua, New Guinea NH World War II Bombardier Finally Coming Home New Hampshire's Roy Davis, of Peterborough, died in World War II when his bomber crashed during an attack. His remains were recently found. Jason Claffey's profile picture https://patch.com/new-hampshire/nashua/nh-world-war-ii-bombardier-finally-coming-home [Extracted from Internet on 9/19/2022--”Goosebumps” Excerpt: PETERBOROUGH, NH — A New Hampshire bombardier killed during World War II is finally coming home. The remains of Peterborough's Roy Davis were discovered in Papua New Guinea. Davis was killed in March 1944 when his bomber crashed during an attack run against Japanese forces occupying the island. He was 26 years old and set to be married to a woman named Molly he met in Australia while on furlough. Remains found in a remote area of Papua New Guinea in 2001 https://patch.com/new-hampshire/nashua/nh-world-war-ii-bombardier-finally-coming-home Dickson, Lawrence E., Tuskagee Smithsonian Remains of Tuskegee Airman Found in Austria Researchers and archaeologists have recovered the remains of distinguished flyer Lawrence E. Dickson whose plane crashed during a mission in 1944 https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/remains-tuskegee-airman-found-austria-180969787/ Frank asked a local researcher, Roland Domanig, to investigate. It turns out Domanig knew the site well. In fact, he had visited it many times as a child in the 1950s until he spotted what may have been human remains. In May 2012, Frank went back to the site, pulled back the moss and found bits and pieces of the crashed plane. “They still had the ash on them, still burnt,” he tells Ruane. “All of the older pine trees around the site had scars on the trees from when the plane was burning and the .50- caliber rounds popped off and hit the trees.” [Goosebumps at first on right side of body including tingling, then certain parts of body incl. along lower spine-extr. front Int. 9/19/2022]][10/31/2022-VERY strong goosebumps again going back over this article on Dickson] Holoka, John Fox News 2023/03/27 With World War II airman's remains found, relative finally 'has closure' for whole family Sgt. John Holoka died nearly 80 years ago with his remains declared non-recoverable — until recently By Brittany Kasko | Fox News https //www foxnews com/lifestyle/world-war-ii-airmans-remains-found-relative-closure-whole- family#spark_wn=1 For nearly six decades, Levatino’s grandmother and her siblings wrote letters to the Army — hoping and praying to get answers and specifics about how the young airman died. Although Holoka's siblings have now passed, Levatino said it was always unsettling to him that they never had concrete answers about what happened to their "Johnny." Then, in 2017, "out of the blue," his family received a long-awaited call…In 1944, Sgt. John Holoka, age 25, was serving during World War II in the U.S. Army Air Corps when his family was informed that he died in the line of duty. The family, based in Cresson, Pennsylvania, was given no details of his death — and for many decades, they tried to obtain information about what happened. On June 22, 1944, a B-24H Liberator was shot down near Arundel, West Sussex, killing three of the 10 men of the crew, the Department of Defense reported. Axis Group (Nazis, etc) downed planes found Messerchmitt fighter plane-northern Denmark-farm near Birkelse https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/08/europe/denmark-wwii-plane-trnd/index.html A 14-year-old Danish boy doing research for a history class found the wreckage of a German World War II plane with the remains of the pilot in the cockpit. Daniel Kristiansen and his father, Klaus, discovered what’s believed to be a Messerschmitt fighter plane buried in a field on their farm near Birkelse in northern Denmark. “We went out to the field with a metal detector,” Klaus [extracted from Internet on 9/19/2022 but had been found earlier and held on a list for a week or so until utting heree; “Goosebumps” this morning UNIFORM AND RIBBONS etc. US Militaria Forum https://www.usmilitariaforum.com/forums/index.php?/topic/242480-ww-2-uniform-ribbons-1943-europe- 2lt-bombardier/ DOWNED-APRIL 2, 1944 : Listings of Downed Planes That Day MACR Resources - List Accident-Report dot com MACR - 1944 - April http://www.accident-report.com/MACR/1944/m194404.html [Note from PF: These appear to all have been downed planes on the same day Orian’s plane went down - April 2, 1944. This is a lot and is a very tragic. This website says the list might not be accurate] Excerpt from Accident-Report: (Austria in red) [18] 440402 B-24 42-52224 455 GERMANY 3363 [7] 440402 B-24 42-52276 456 AUSTRIA 3365 [19] 440402 B-24 41-29282 455 GERMANY 3368 [22] 440402 B-24 41-29407 455 YUGOSLAVIA 3464 440402 B-24 42-52271 455 YUGOSLAVIA 3471 [16] 440402 A-36 42-84063 86 ITALY 3508 [1] 440402 B-24 42-109848 98 GERMANY 3578 440402 B-24 42-73423 98 YUGOSLAVIA 3579 [8] 440402 B-24 42-52142 450 AUSTRIA 3582 [1] 440402 B-17 42-30429 97 AUSTRIA 3583 [2] 440402 B-17 42-30343 97 AUSTRIA 3586 [3] 440402 B-17 42-3244 97 AUSTRIA 3639 440402 B-24 42-73142 5 SOUTH PACIFIC 3679 440402 B-24 42-73150 5 SW PACIFIC 3680 [9] 440402 B-24 42-73426 450 AUSTRIA 3694 440402 B-17 42-31639 301 YUGOSLAVIA 3707 [10] 440402 B-24 41-29245 451 AUSTRIA 3718 [17] 440402 B-24 42-73077 98 ITALY 3880 [29] 440402 B-24 41-28716 459 MEDITERR 3884 [4] 440402 B-17 42-32013 99 AUSTRIA 3887 [5] 440402 B-17 42-32056 99 AUSTRIA 3888 [21] 440402 B-24 42-64374 459 GERMANY 3889 440402 B-24 41-28698 460 YUGOSLAVIA 3971 [11] 440402 B-24 42-52136 449 AUSTRIA 3995 [12] 440402 B-24 41-29216 449 AUSTRIA 4024 [12] 440402 B-24 42-52086 449 AUSTRIA 4025 440402 P-70 42-33143 418 SW PACIFIC 4074 440402 B-24 42-52388 461 YUGOSLAVIA 4086 440402 B-24 41-29336 451 YUGOSLAVIA 4087 440402 B-17 42-3144 301 YUGOSLAVIA 4197 440402 B-24 42-78085 376 YUGOSLAVIA 4204 [13] 440402 B-17 42-32062 99 AUSTRIA 4909 [14] 440402 B-24 41-29245 451 AUSTRIA 5094 440402 C-47 42-92815 ATC CEN PACIFIC 15090 440402 B-25 41-30350 9AF NORTH AFRICA 15272 [6] 440402 B-17 UNKNOWN 2 AUSTRIA 15913 440402 B-17 42-102711 557BU US;MISSISSIPP 16217 http://www.accident-report.com/MACR/1944/m194404.html [extracted from Internet week of 9/21/2022] 449th.com APRIL 2, 1944 https://449th.com/april-2-1944/ Excerpt: But today was a different matter. For several weeks now the aircraft components factory at Steyr, Austria, has been much in our mind. It has been briefed and canceled; briefed and canceled. In fact late in February the Group actually attacked Steyr. Today the entire Air Force took a resounding crack at this target. We lost three planes as a result of a collision over the target but our results were good and we destroyed twelve enemy aircraft. Capt. John A. Joseph returned from detached service at 15th Air Force. Steyr, Austria 2 April 1944 by Doyle G. Black http://15thaf.org/304th_BW/455th_BG/Stories/PDFs/Steyr.pdf Lt W.J. Pardoe - Evaded Capture Lt. W.V. Costello Jr. - Evaded Capture T/Sgt. W.B. Roberts - Evaded Capture T/Sgt. J.E. Warren - Evaded Capture S/Sgt. E.C. Kimberly - Evaded Capture None of the other crew members joined this group during the time they were escaping This is what I know about the other crew members according to MACR #3464: S/Sgt.R.F. Matthews - captured, interred at Dulag Luft 2nd Lt. L.N. Gottlieb - captured, interred at Dulag Luft 2nd Lt. T.R. Patterson - captured, interred at Dulag Luf Wikipedia dot org https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accidents_and_incidents_involving_the_Boeing_B-17_Flying_Fortress UPDATES: 2022/10/28 This page Background-2b created (divided up origina Background page); 2022/09/23 some cleaning up of menu2022/09/21-22 MACR list; 2022/09/13 AAF Collection info added on bombardier training, and US Army Air Forces section added; 2022/09/10 added Anschluss; 2022/09/07 incl Wash. Post article on repatriation of the dead after WW2 to US; ; 2022/09/02 Bombardier Group-449 added; 2022/08/31; 2022/08/29; 2022/08/27-PAGE STARTED-Orian T. Wynn-Background Information
DOWNED PLANES & CREWS - Finding, name Lists, Likely Sources Checklist -Potential Sources for Investigating downed planes and crews. (These items might be found under other menu categories) DOWNED-April 2. 1944 o MACR Austria April 2 1944 list-downed planes 449 Bomb Grp Flying Horsemen Also see Bundesheer dot at list of planes crews downed locations FOUND o Recovered WW2 soldiers-Davis, Dickson, Gray, Marshall, Norris Davis, Roy New Hampshire Bombardier - Papua, New Guinea-Roy Davis Dickson, Lawrence E. Italy- Austria border, remains at plane crash site-Tuskagee Captain Gray, William: Army Air Forces 1st Lt., 21,of Kirkland, WA fighter pilot crashed in Germany --Fox News-2017/09/27-World War II pilot's remains found in tree, return for burial 72 years later Marshall, Charles R., Army Air Forces Sgt., 19, of Martin, Ky, missing since 1944-Air Force Mag- 2013/06/10-World War II Airman’s Remains Recovered Norris, Frank Ardith: Army Air Force pilot killed in Romania on August 1, 1943- Dallas Express-2022/04/26- UNIFORM, RIBBONS, etc. DPAA - Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency Archives dot gov NPRC.Vetrecs - nara.gov
During the war a total of 525 American and 31 British aircraft crashed in the region that is now Austria. The vast majority of these were U.S. bombers of the types B-24“Liberator” and B-17 “Flying Fortress.” (Bundesheer.at ) Any POW lists showing Americans in foreign territory - camps o Defense POW/MIA Accounting Agency Red Cross records Repatriation records - ships, planes Cemeteries Private collections - letters, documents, etc. Dog Tags (can show up later) DNA testing for unknowns Cemeteries (Americans Overseas) o See also Repatriation - Dead Bodies after war o St. Avold Bombing 1944 Time Bombs-80th Div o Lorraine Cemetery o Bombing in 1944 Planes - Downed, Loss Lists, Accient Lists o Wikipedia-Accidents and Incidents Flying Fortresses o Pilots - Downed Pilots in Crews, Recovery, Lists o See also Stories o Pilot Lists-Accident Report dot com Stories involving survivors, downed plane and crew circumstances -similar to that of Orian and his crew o Found, Recovery in Process https://www.swtimes. com/story/news/2021/ 05/02/excavation- arkansans-world-war- ii-p-38-crash-site- austria-unearths- possible-human- remains/7412364002/ o Plane Wreck Research - General Germany https://www.war historyonline.co m/war- articles/world- war-two-aircraft- plane-wrecks- search- continuesgerman y.html?edg- c=1&A1c=1 World War II Veteran’s Remains Recovered After 79 Years o Red Cross-WW2 moved to Wynn-4 o Nurses-WW2 moved to Wynn-4
EUROPE ALLIED PLANES DOWN 4/2/1944 Orian’s possible plane: B-17 or B17G # 42- 31639-listed elsewhere but not on this list unless unknown [list by PF extrapolated from list left] Austria B17 (Flying Fortress) 1 B-17 42-30429 3583 97 2 B-17 42-30343 3586 97 3 B-17 42-3244 3639 97 4 B-17 42-32013 3887 99 5 B-17 42-32056 3888 99 6 B-17 UNKNOWN 15913 2 B24 (Liberator) 7 B-24 42-52276 3365 456 8 B-24 42-52142 3582 450 9 B-24 42-73426 3694 450 10 B-24 41-29245 3718 451 11 B-24 42-52136 3995 449 12 B-24 41-29216 4024 449 13 B-24 42-52086 4025 449 14 B-17 42-32062 4909 99 15 B-24 41-29245 5094 451 --------------------------- Italy 16 A-36 42-84063 86 3508 17 B-24 42-73077 3880 98 Germany 18 B-24 42-52224 455 3363 19 B-24 41-29282 455 3368 20 B-24 42-109848 98 3578 21 B-24 42-64374 459 3889 Yugoslavia 22 B-24 41-29407 455 3464 23 B-24 42-52271 455 3471 24 B-17 42-31639 301 3707 25 B-24 42-52388 461 4086 26 B-24 41-29336 451 4087 27 B-17 42-3144 301 4197 28 B-24 42-78085 376 4204 Mediterranean 29 B-24 41-28716 459 3884
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DOWNED WW2 1-Crew, Pilots, Others 1a-Bombardier OT Wynn 1b-Pilot Albert Zuidema 1c-Crew 1d-Others o Squadron, Relations o Input on Crash o MACR 3707 2-Background Info o 2a Austria, History o 2b-Found, Downed 3-Nurse Corps 4-Docs-all o 4a-Orian o 4aa-Orian Schooling o 4b-Zuidema o 4c-Crew o 4d-Key Others 5-Comments 6-Links List